10 russian warships off uk coast

Launch control was always in Moscow. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. Very old school looking set up and equipment. Times where unity is needed he takes EU presidency and is calling for the EU to do their own deal with Russia. Surely you mean the Syrians? Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. So the design probably dates back to the late 1960s / early 1970s, so getting a bit long in the tooth..! Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. . Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Is Harpoon totally ineffective against Russian ships or just a bit old? Its a gap that worries the ranks the most! As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. Just do what I do and refer to wikipedia according to which the class was commissioned between 1975 and 1991. But you have to appreciate they are not the be all and end all. I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. I agree with your 10 year rule. Its not as easy as it seems, accurately targeting the correct vessel in high shipping density waters. His advanced years are often publicly evident in his performance. Its the same with 90% of Russian kit. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. An interesting breakdown of Americas national debt. The waters wont be crowded, NOTAMs would clear potential conflict areas fast. Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. UK could learn a few things by this process and not immediately scrap stuff. 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. In comarison with previous pictures those ships are sailing well loaded. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. Because I dont have anybody living on the USA/Canada so I dont know the situation. Reuters, the news and media division of Thomson Reuters, is the worlds largest multimedia news provider, reaching billions of people worldwide every day. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. Tabloid sensationalism Im afraid Tommo. All it takes is for 1 to get through! However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. The. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. Now over, the Russian ships heading for the Med, inc a cruiser. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Hi Ron. The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Erm, theres certain CO of a T23 on TV at the moment who disagrees with you not to mention Radakin hgiving HoC evidence, I havent see the show, so Ill take your word on it, Surely if Russia invades Ukraine theres gonna have to be big increases in defence and security spending were gonna have to reinforce all Eastern European alliance members for that matter any country world wide that feels threatened buy any powerful country, Hi Geordie, Youd think so. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security. The core of the Russian navy's Northern Fleet has been observed manoeuvring in and around Irish-controlled waters in recent days, ahead of planned live-fire drills. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. He sees weakness and disharmony and a split America with half the voters seeing thier Country as an island totally ignorant of what losing Europe would mean to the US position in the World. Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? I doubt it. The N Koreans are starving again. Thanks for that. Iran has already stepped up activities in the gulf region, recently attacked the UAE with drones from Yemen causing a few civilian casualties. This was at the request of the Australian Government. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. Whereas I have friends and colleagues dotted along the West Coast which is how I can call out your nonsense on that one. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. The White Housewarned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'. So can be used if the IIR seeker doesnt see the target. To Decimate is as you put Dave 1 in 10 ,50% is half which is Dimidium, Cheers Tommo my googlefu is poor however, my google translate fu was non-existent , Over the last third of a century the pollies have dimidiumated the British Army . The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. what about nato members bulgaria and romania? So easy to detect and evasion not impossible but also easy for CIWS to lock onto. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. But what might a Russian attack look like and what could it seek to achieve? Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. The anti-tank weapon systems weve sent out recently are a welcome contribution alongside the stuff the US sent out last year, but much more should have been done and long before now. At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. Similarly, the economic sanctions threatened by the US and the UK apply regardless of the scale of such action. Nine Royal Navy ships have completed a "concentrated operation" to shadow seven Russian warships, the British Royal Navy said Thursday, citing "unusually high levels of activity" in the English . Actually, its an interesting point. Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. Etc, etc. NSM is able to navigate by GPS, inertial and terrain reference systems. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. Didnt Bidens Son in law have an interest in the Ukraine (monetary) ? As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! Europe must now start taking this threat seriously, re-arm and be prepared to fight. This is a US created crisis for US domestic reasons. Morning Sean. This is a normal response to transiting warships from other nations., Russian amphibious assault flotilla to transit English Channel. Britain seems to be the only Western power doing anything regarding the imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. Push buttons. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. The vessels were found by Naval News with the help of Damien Symon, an independent defense analyst. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . Locally known as the UK Minister of Defence. All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. Ooops! But the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko, called on extra help from Western powers. one area that peeves me is that we no longer have the facilities to build produce the equipment fast enough. Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. It looks like a scene from 1984. Or perhaps NATOs drive eastwards since the fall of communism might just be giving them sleepless nights! When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? On Wednesday, the State Departmentapprovedthe transfer of U.S.-made missiles from Baltic NATO members to Ukraine. I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. . Comms on a dived Astute very limited. Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. Giles said some scenarios could involve long-range missile attacks or cyber-attacks targeting critical infrastructure. Yep 100%. Most likely require a supplementary MoD budget? It remains unclear whether tanker Karma accidentally revealed its location. Dont we have typhoons in the Balkans and Romania? Any damage to external sensors, VLS tubes, the bridge area, mast, or flight deck would be enough to take it out of the fight. The RN has learned many lessons over the years, have a little faith. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. Please leave a comment below if you have something to say! Im not sure to be honest. The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? Ill think you well find Im disagreeing with a nut job who thinks Salisbury was a UK government conspiracy lol. This was of course totally unrelated to his dad, then VP, having a say on loan money going into Ukraine. the less we have to do with the ukraine the better. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. Mr Putin is aware that as Ukraine does not belong to Nato, there will be no military response by Western states. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. Without ASuW the RN is badly exposed, and its criminal negligence sending sailors into a warzone without ability to take offensive action. Mind you cant complain about my pension, thank God for SERPS. A multi-front assault might also involve a move into northeastern Ukraine, encircling but perhaps not entering cities where forces could get bogged down in urban fighting. kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. During his meeting with Zelensky today, Blinken reaffirmed the American commitment to his nation's sovereignty and said Ukraine had faced 'relentless aggression from Moscow' since the collapse of the Soviet Union. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. 5 There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. Without OHT you are randomly chucking missiles out down a bearing and hoping the target is somewhere within the seeker head basket for the terminal homing. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. 'Our view is this is an extremely dangerous situation,' said White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki. Find out more. Correction. . I wonder if we could see a real boost in our defence budget? 'I strongly, strongly hope that we can keep this on a diplomatic and peaceful path, but ultimately, that's going to be President Putin's decision.'. Agree, that is the most likely route. Test capabilities. Russian warships have been spotted off the British coast. The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. 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In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. But the figures arent as large as claimed andRead more . I certainly do! Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. A publicly available U.S. intelligence document said Russia could stage an invasion this month with up to 100 battalion tactical groups (BTGs) or some 175,000 troops. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and. 36 minutes ago. Putin has been blowing smoke about NATO having significant forces in countries bordering Russia, but really they are minimal. It could be solved if Ukraine finally implemented the Minsk Protocol it signed in 2015. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. NATOs multinational battlegroup in Bulgaria reached full operational capability on Wednesday. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. HMS Tyne, HMS Richmond and HMS Kent jointly escorted the same group of Russian ships as they operated in the Celtic Sea. The ships - which included a . ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. Not sitting, looks like hes on his way to Moscow to have a quiet chat with Sergei Shoigu. Ultimately, the maneuver ends abruptly. Will it damage to a ship? I think one of Moscow's long-standing goals has been to try to sow divisions between and within our countries and quite simply, we cannot and will not let them do that. The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. lol. You talking Cobbers as usual! I think you have hit the nail on the head. All depends on how you define corruption but generally speaking most countries are corrupt at some or all levels us included. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago.

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