| It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. Marlin made a name for themselves offering an improved version of the Winchester action starting in the 1880s. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Smooth as butter. It worked well in T/C barrels with bullets over 158 grains, and as near-max loads are usually compressed, it eliminated propellant position issues. Big improvement in smothness. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. The more the merrier. It was for long-range pistoleeringthe IHMSA challenge of accuracy and power at range. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Lil Gun starting at 26 grains and worked up to as much as 30 grains gives top velocities in 24 barrels and good velocities in shorter barrels. This is well within the expansion range of the slightly larger XTP. A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! Mounted basic fixed sights on it. The Story of my life it seems. Past 20, pressure drops off and so do velocities. Thats what makes them lever action great. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. 1/ picking up brass at this range is not required, only the reloaders typically pick it up. I have. The Jelly Head Maximum utilizes an extended taper and fluted ports to tighten patterns up to 20 perc OUR STOCK NUMBER:13211 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI..R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 20" CAPACITY: 12+1 FURNITURE: DARK BRAZILIA Uberti 1873 Cattleman II NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550) This pistol is brand new in the box. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. Other brands and types of lead core handgun bullets tend to blow up and not penetrate into vital organs when driven at rifle velocities close in. . And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post Can we get some more ideas? Yeah both pretty awesome. And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. No joke. I put a Wild West trigger on the 336, and its great, but that puts the Marlin price right up there with Henry. I would add Chiappa Alaskan in .357 Magnum to the mix. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. Citadel Levtac-92 .357 Magnum Tactical-Lever! Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Good item. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. Ive been at the range many times when people in adjacent lanes started talking about trigger quality and, when I let them fire that old 19, the response is usually just, wow. Maximum Expansion HP 157 38spl 38 1150fps, Traditions Outfitter G3 Single Shot .357 Magnum 22" Black / Silver CR571130, Rossi R92 Carbine .357 Magnum 20" Gold Barrel Bands 923572013-GLD, Benjamin Bulldog, Ben Bpbd3s Bulldog 357 Syn, Uberti 1873 Trapper Carbine Rifle .357 Magnum 16.125" Walnut 342435, Uberti 1873 Special Sporting Rifle .357 Magnum 24.25" Octagon Walnut 342760, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" 10 Rds Walnut 920.129, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Trapper Carbine .357 Mag 16" 8 Rds 920.335, Cimarron 1892 Carbine 20" Octagon CCH .357MAG 10+1 AS622 EZ PAY $126, Taylor Uberti 1873 Trapper .357MAG 18" Pistol Grip 10+1 550202 EZ PAY $147, Cimarron 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" Walnut 10 Rounds AS621, Cimarron Uberti 1894 26" .38-55 6+1 CA2903 EZ PAY $117. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I have not seen the .357 atomic but know of the .375 atomic-it is a i.4 in. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. They can. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Risking twice that? This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. Being forced to use the Winchester Trapper, the horror. We were amazed at the penetration. Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! Get your barrels customized early for next season! Long guns get in the way. The 1894 CSBL has a 16-inch barrel, with an 8-shot tube. Max. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. If you want a lever gun for your wall and occasional shooting, good luck doing better. Read Their Fine Print!! I was shocked when I found out. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. Oranges should be squeezed into juice. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. The chronograph results show it is identical to the 35 Remington. Working range would be 50-70 yards. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. So its a one-two-three punch. For instance, My 45-90, when I reload the 45/90 case, I only load to mid range 45/70 specs and use toilet paper to make up the case space. That it would also make a good field cartridge for hunting small and medium game is obvious. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. Choose to either optimize the MAGnum chamber or go all the way to the .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend chamber. Trying to understand why the only conclusion I can draw is that people think them as old-fashioned and slow. JavaScript is disabled. Free shipping for many products! From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. those .357s out of a 20 inch barrel will just bounce off the bad guys chest, I tell ya!!!!!!! It works out to about the same as a heavy loaded 38-55 in a Marlin 336. I love Lever action rifles, and own Rossis, Savage 99s, Winchesters , ( 92 and 94s), Marlins, and Henrys, in 357 magnum and 44 Rem Mag. *We Never share your email without your permission. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. May be possible to make a single shot but it would be costly. .44 Henry rimfire. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. I now have the Ruger gp100-7. Have as much ammo on hand as you can afford. For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. using H4227 and H110. Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. . As long as components are available, I can handload for it. Order your barrel directly from Match Grade Machine, made however you want with their standard chamber or for $125 additional post paid to you, custom chambered by me, Mike Bellm, to my specs for best accuracy with the full range of bullet weights and types. Who needs a semi auto rifle. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job. Its nice to check back in after so many years and see that my old photos and articles are still relevant. I wrote the original TTAG book on pistol-caliber levers back in the day, and Id like to add a few points to those made in this article. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? . The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. 357 Remington Maximum Load Data Because the .357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to .35 Rem. The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. Lever action rifles are fun. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post Through the years, the company continued to expand and . BTW, next to .357 Mag in the combo, my next favorite choice would be the set in .44 Mag. Last time I went hunting. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. Looks like AA 1680 is the top powder choice. Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. The sights are just like the CSBL are an XS Sights ghost ring sight set. I REALLY wish Mossberg would make that hideous SPX Tactical in .357. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. Thank God for so many various powders available. Threaded barrel. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. (Ive been running 7 grains for handgun loads.). Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. This rifle has a ton of modern flair that you may be used to seeing on semi-automatic sporting rifles. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. Carbine length It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. Really puts a pop in the round. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. The 1873 was one of the most popular lever action rifles of all time. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. Goes to show I learn something new every day. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. The .357 sounds like just the ticket for deer hunting in heavy brush where 70-80 yard shots are about the max you will find. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. Try some Blue Dot in your .357 Mag, chronograph it and see how you like it. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. Great deal on a 357 magnum! Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post Worried about scratching that brass? or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. Just picked up a Marlin 1894C at my local gun store. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. .357 velocities peak in a 16 barrel and decrease thereafter. rifle is 17.1gr. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. NEVER see one at any reasonable price at any LGS. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. I agree, a lever gun in the .357 Max would be quite the setup. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. 38 Special ammo is cheap and easy to reload for plinking and target practice. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. bullets and 1800 (+) fps from 10" barrels at the short end of barrel lengths. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. A real plain looking carbine, but the thing shoots like a dream. New cartridge and rifle. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. We show you how. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post If theyll go ahead and put the new loading gate on it (which I expect they will before long) I think Id probably move it straight to the top of the list. https://leeprecision.com/lee-loader-45-70-govt.html. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). And they repeat that statement in the new book about Samuel Colt. 1. Im a wee bit envious. Item Number: 534196137. Subscriber Services. A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. WOW! . Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. They both have Constitutional carry! Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. by elmo123 Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:11 pm, Post Now Rechambering Henry Single Shot .357 Magnum Rifles! Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". Not all rifles need to be used to kill commies. Guys that do this are, shall we saypreoccupied with velocity, which is usually the product of light bullets and fast-burning powder.I believe that a failure to appreciate the complexities of this cartridge, the bullets available for it and the proper propellants applicable were a major reason why it passed early. Thats one reason my dad carried a semi-auto 12 Gauge for whitetails. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. I use regular .38 Special/.357 Magnum dies to load my .357 Maximum ammo. I kept still hoping that they couldnt climb a tree. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. I don't think it is possible due to OAL differences. A . and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. Tho i reload all my center fire calibers. If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Back in the day. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. . Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. I dont live in big bear country. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. Probably because the articles title was the 5 best RIFLES, not handguns. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. . Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. Thirdly, in ordinary political/economic times .38 and .357 ammo is plentiful, ubiquitous, and affordable. Dies, a dipper set and some components and you are gtg. Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. I had the model 19 years ago. I was favorably impressed with the .357 Max and the spectrum of .357 bullets that would optimize its versatility. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. Or crushed and fermented into a crisp, dry Cider. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. Auction (145) My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? Based on the Encore being ok for the 270, up to 65,000 psi is Ok. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. They should come from the factory that way. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating.
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